NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados (@nofatetech)

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NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech3h32b5f57

defending php/laravel on X, hehe https://x.com/NoFateTech/status/2114062021977162108

X (formerly Twitter)NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados (@NoFateTech) on X@wickedguro I think PHP, Laravel and such have been quietly stronger than people think for many years, and JS-in-the-server has made the tech industry worse today than before :) IMHO Check out I am trying to write some proof in this doc: https://t.co/ge7cTDRe8h

NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech3hf739c3c

🍹 "I, the expert, didn't know PHP existed until yesterday, now I own a boat."

NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech4h3f21570

Yeah, its the bits of wisdom coming out in the only-js crazyness, but at least it gets us thinking of the better world, wasm doesn't sound so bad all of a sudden :)

GWGarrett W.@garrettw4h

I hadn't seen that one, but I am aware of php-wasm -- and without making individual languages themselves into full-fledged standards like ES, I think WASM is going to be the only way forward. That said, it's not really equivalent.

NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech4hbf2cfb5

Compiles to WASM. I haven't gotten the chance to use it that much yet, but would totally love to!

CACaleb Abebe@k4l3b44h

Interesting, it complies to js?

Caleb Abebe @k4l3b44h

ohhh yeah, i think WASM is the best way to using any programming language on the frontend, with the added benefit of your website being faster and prerdictable, id say we use JS for the DOM and WASM for everything else😂

NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech5ha6841c1

yeah! the 'one language' promise, that was needed because of bad communication between front and back teams probably, and is not a problem with Laravel/Inertia :) ..and I say well lets enable more languages for the frontend to balance it out!

CACaleb Abebe@k4l3b45h

1 reason might be because it allows frontend developers to not have to use another language to build backends, so basically it's a frontend dev's way of claiming to be a fullstack dev🙂

Caleb Abebe @k4l3b45h

Doesn't inertia use JS tho? i think what laravel has done is glue together the two layers, no writing api requests and stuff, i think most people just don't wanna go through learning a new language even just enough to let them use a given framework. and i really do agree with…

Garrett W.@garrettw5h

I truly understand the appeal of that idea, but unfortunately it's a much bigger challenge. One person can host a website using the language of their choice, because at the end of the day, it speaks HTTP over the wire, which is a standard. But one person cannot control what…

NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech5h9e95f3d

I’m looking for reasons for the importance/default-ness of using JS on the server, where the answer is not just “because that’s what the industry is moving towards” or similar. JS on the server is a psyop IMHO…

Google DocsJS on the server is a psyopI’m looking for pro’s or reasons for the importance/default of using JS on the server, where the answer is not just “because that’s what the industry is moving towards”. It's more difficult to create websites today than 20 years ago. Programming patterns, frameworks, boilerplates have been...

Caleb Abebe @k4l3b45h

1 reason might be because it allows frontend developers to not have to use another language to build backends, so basically it's a frontend dev's way of claiming to be a fullstack dev🙂

NoFate Technology - Luis V. Penados @nofatetech21hb195e3b

Working on a Laravel project, advancing feels like light speed compared to JS-on-the-server crazy land :) PHP will rise!

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